tsufish
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| I don't know which drives me nuts more: co-workers that are out for every little thing or the ones that are running a fever but come to work anyway. I love sharing an office with someone that is running a 101, but feels better when she is working that when she is at home in bed. I really wanted to get the flu and I'm so glad she was willing to share - NOT! Finally went above her head and the boss sent her home, not for me but for the other employee that had pneumonia last month so he wouldn't be exposed to her. |
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OHDanceMom73
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| Or better yet when your boss has been sick for a week and it the type of person that does not believe in personal space! Seriously, go home, she is so obsessed with work! |
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jeanne4379
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Sheesh! Fumigate that cubicle with Lysol or other favorite disinfectants. Be sure to wear surgical gloves and a face mask. Those germified hands touched stuff, will touch them again and then come and rest on your space when the culprit returns.
Do some people need subtle hints? Like a healthy co-worker greeting the sick one with a face mask, surgical gown and gloves? |
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stpierremom
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While I absolutely agree that sick people should stay home and not risk infecting others, there are people who HAVE to work. My DH is a workaholic, too, and although he would never want to get anyone else sick, the only reason he misses work is if he's too weak from the illness to get himself out the door. He's in the auto industry, and he works 60+ hours per week (office setting). Anyone who doesn't is really putting his/her job at risk the next time cuts come along.
Maintaining sensible precautions is the best thing we can all do. Just remember that sometimes the people who are at work would rather be at home keeping their germs to themselves. |
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driving2dance
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Quote: Originally Posted by stpierremom
While I absolutely agree that sick people should stay home and not risk infecting others, there are people who HAVE to work. Anyone who doesn't is really putting his/her job at risk the next time cuts come along.
Maintaining sensible precautions is the best thing we can all do. Just remember that sometimes the people who are at work would rather be at home keeping their germs to themselves.
I totally agree! Even though they had a big meeting and sent out all this information about the flu at my DH's office there is no way he can stay away for more than a day when he is sick. They expect him to work 60+ hours week and is considered to be "not pulling his weight" if he doesn't. He's such a tough guy that I won't know if he's ill unless he just won't get out of bed. Unfortunately for all, with the job market the way it is, no one is going to risk losing his or her job just because of illness. |
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tsufish
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| This woman deals directly with the public. All I can think about is the kids, pregnant women, and elderly people that have come in the office the last two days. She breathed on them and touched the water bills/receipts. She has to be Flu-Teddi. |
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whitsmom
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| My office is the same way...its just really tough on everyone if I am gone. I think they would rather risk getting sick than have to work a man short. |
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calico2
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Our work has a very strict absence policy for teachers. We cannot miss over 8 days of school in a calendar year(not a school year)or we will be hauled in to talk to a person from the school board, the principal, our union rep, and a vice principal (like they don't have better things to do).
They ask you to account for each and every absence and they determine if they think your reasons are "valid" or not and if they deem that you are "abusing" your sick days, you are on an "attendance assistance" plan which entails being tracked daily for your arrival, departures, absences, etc...and you have to have a note from a doctor for everything.
In fact, you are forced to sign a form which allows the principal and admin at the board office to speak directly to your doctor. If you still prove to be a "problem" You will be put on a probation of some sort which is designed to actually get rid of you.
They say they try to assist you by making sure you have all proper "care" in place....for example, one of my colleagues had gall bladder issues and was quite ill prior to it being removed. Although she could prove her condition and showed all documentation regarding the operation, they still put her on the "track A" where they directly could contact the doctor. They said they were "helping her" that way....UGH!
Another friend of mine was gone due to her father having a massive heart attack and then after when he actually received a transplant! They claimed that she was not the one who was ill, so she did not need to be there with him!!!
One fellow teacher's father actually passed away on a Friday and she was back on the Monday afternoon after the funeral. The VP actually got on the PA and commended her for being at school even though her father had just passed. That, to me, proved that she has screwed up priorities, didn't really care about her family or she was so distraught she didn't know what else to do...
The point I make is that many people are MADE to be at work when we are ill.
Some do not get paid when they are not at work and desperately need the income.
Others have such stress and turmoil in their homes that coming to work is more of a rest than staying at home.
Many employers will just fire those who are gone for a week.
Work places (such as mine) need to make it possible to stay home when you are ill without such harsh repercussions. |
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KrissisMomLvsDance
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| FMLA (Family Medical Leave Act) comes into play in many of the instances you speak of Calico. Sounds like the people at your work need to learn their rights. If you have a legitimate health issue or have a relative that needs your assistance you are guaranteed job protected status for up to 12 weeks per year. It's not just for people who have or adopt babies. |
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ceme2260
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Calico is in Canada, so I don't know that they have anything like the FMLA up there.
I agree that it is employers that force people to work when they are sick. Sometimes it is even just the perception that you had better not miss work, due to the environment of the workplace.
It's really a shame. |
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tsufish
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How good is the education your child is receiving when the teacher is sick? I used to teach and I know the days I didn't feel good, the kid's didn't get my best education attempt.
While I understand that many jobs make it hard for you to leave, we are completely free to take off when we need to. I'm taking off Monday, because my kids are out of school and I wanted to do something with them.
This is just a sick person that just doesn't want to be at home. Like I said in an earlier post she works with the public. How would you feel if you knew the person that just handled your water account had strep throat or the flu? Most of the people that come in during the day are stay at home moms and ederly. She is exposing them to whatever she has simply because she doesn't want to go home, not because she has to be here. She gets paid sick leave and has the days to take off. She is putting herself before those of the people she works with and the general public. In this case, I think she is selfish. |
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ceme2260
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She sounds very selfish. I agree, in your case, it sounds like there is no reason for her not to take the time off. Especially in the case of working directly with the public, she should be made to take the time off.
I believe the same should be true of teachers. If a teacher is sick, as a parent, I would much rather have the teacher take the time off than be at school teaching my child. |
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tsufish
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| She just called from the doctor. It is either strep or mono! |
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azmom
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Quote: Originally Posted by calico2
Our work has a very strict absence policy for teachers. We cannot miss over 8 days of school in a calendar year(not a school year)or we will be hauled in to talk to a person from the school board, the principal, our union rep, and a vice principal (like they don't have better things to do).
Wow, nothing like treating your teachers like professionals(!)  We get 10 sick days per year, and we can use up to 4 as personal days. We only have to get permission for personal days ahead of time if we plan on using them directly before or after any holiday, or within 2 weeks of the beginning or end of the year. Also, our sick days accrue, so some teachers have literally hundreds of days saved up (they can cash them in when they retire). I missed a lot of days last year due to dd's many medical appointments, and everyone was very understanding... |
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NEdancemom
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Quote: Originally Posted by azmomQuote: Originally Posted by calico2
Our work has a very strict absence policy for teachers. We cannot miss over 8 days of school in a calendar year(not a school year)or we will be hauled in to talk to a person from the school board, the principal, our union rep, and a vice principal (like they don't have better things to do).
Wow, nothing like treating your teachers like professionals(!) We get 10 sick days per year, and we can use up to 4 as personal days. We only have to get permission for personal days ahead of time if we plan on using them directly before or after any holiday, or within 2 weeks of the beginning or end of the year. Also, our sick days accrue, so some teachers have literally hundreds of days saved up (they can cash them in when they retire). I missed a lot of days last year due to dd's many medical appointments, and everyone was very understanding...
This sounds like my district except we only get two personal days a year. This year with all the flu stuff going around our district has said that if you are sick with a fever you are not to return to work until you have been 24 hours fever free without the use of medication. So far this year we have had a teacher out for 2 weeks, and 2 out for one week. |
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