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I will start off by saying that this is my dd's first year doing competition and I know very little about it. I am learning by asking questions and talking to the more experienced moms.
My dd's studio has parent observation twice a year. Last night was observation for the team practices. Afterwards, I asked the teacher if they run numbers before the kids go on stage. She said that they try, but it doesn't always happen because of the sheer amount of numbers our studio enters. Their attitude is that the kids should know the routines and running it once shouldn't make a difference. I completely agree with that. However, I did notice while I was watching, every single dance was meh the first time the kids danced and was way better the second time. I just worry that if they don't run it first, it will be meh on the stage. Again, I don't know much about comps and our first one is next month, so I may be worrying for nothing.
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We try to run before they go on stage but sometimes there is not enough space to run it full out. At our last venue there was NO space at all. NONE. So even if we wanted to we couldn't have. That space constraint was unusual though.
We do what we can. I find though - that when they hit the stage they get a boost of energy that brings them together. I'm not sure how much your team practices together but if they do it enough then it will come together!
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Sometimes we run numbers before, sometimes we don’t. I don’t think it matters much.
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First studio always ran the little ones before they went on. Older dancers would just listen to their music and mark it.
Second studio would have all dancers mark their routine just so it was fresh in their mind but not really running the dance. Popular attitude is that if they don't have it down by the time they get there one more run through is not going to help. I have seen that one run through backfire in a big way because the dancer gets something wrong and then that is all they can think about once they get on stage.
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My daughter finds it more helpful to get in her barre routine and a really good stretch before going on stage, over running the dance. She'll sometimes take parts of the dance and go over it, ones she's trying to really improve, but to full on run it is rare. Space is definitely an issue but like you said, the kids should know the dance and running it once won't help much. The excitement of the day will pep them up, promise
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Our studio always tries to run the little ones before they go on. The older kids will run their numbers or practice specific moves wherever they can find space. As long as they are stretched and warmed up, sometimes the older kids just listen to their music and mark it...depends on the number of quick changes.
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We definitely try to run all numbers, but as others have said, space can be an issue so sometimes they are more marked than ran full out. The team coaches philosophy is that they shouldn't be doing their first leap or turn of the day on stage, but not that they have to run dances with music if it's not possible.
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It honestly depends on how much time is between numbers and if there is space to do it. Our studio tries but it doesn’t always happen. I think the kids do give it their all when they know that they are in front of judges, no matter what.
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our last studio was VERY serious about running their numbers before they hit the stage. From the minis to the seniors, it wasn't even a question "are we going to run this number or not". If there wasn't enough space inside to run the dance, they would go on a small hike with the teacher to find a space that would allow them to properly go "full out". In the case of quick changes, the dances would be run before the number that caused the quick change. These "run throughs" also happened a good 2 hours, or at least hour and a half before they were due to be onstage. Like i said.... VERY serious about these run throughs lol
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We try and run group numbers once or twice before they hit the stage but sometimes it just doesn't work due to lack of space at the venue - we had a solo comp last week and were warming up in a corner of the atrium at the venue as there was no rehearsal room. Sometimes the DTs are just too busy with multiple numbers within a short period of time. Last week, one of our DTs was warming up and running dances for 4 kids at once as they went on so close to each other. And it's not uncommon for a DT to be in the backstage area running dances with whoever is set to hit the stage next if there is space to be backstage. Myself and other moms have also run group numbers with my DDs team when the DT was occupied elsewhere, then we hand off as soon as DT is available. We do find running things through at least once or twice is beneficial for my DD's mini team just to get them mentally ready and focussed - they are all so excited to be at comp that it just helps bring them back down and focusses them.
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Teacher and dance mom/grandma here. It is my pet peeve that people rehearse their dances on site at a competition. If they don't have it by the time they arrive at the comp trying to rehearse in a small cramped area with folks trying to get past them does not help them with spacing or even memory on stage. They risk injury to themselves and others. Plus it is just down right rude! Directors who do this aren't doing to to help their dancers, they are doing it to psych out the competition. My students only warm up to be able to perform at maximum. They never rehearse, they are encouraged to listen to their music via their phones and envision themselves doing it perfectly. And we win quite often. And we don't get into others way in the hallways, foyers, or dressing rooms as other studios do, nor do we try to get in their heads. Honestly, how is marking a routine in less than optimal space a positive thing? It isn't.
Now drill team comps allow teams to go to another gym and rehearse full out in an area that is the same as they will perform, so in that instance I somewhat understand it so they can work out spacing issues, and they are dancing full out as if they were being judged. They are the only team generally in the gym at the time they are rehearsing. They leave that gym and go to the main gym to compete their routine. The only issue I have with this is they can be tired and will be sweaty prior to their performance. Sometimes they have time to cool down and retouch makeup, but sometimes they don't.
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Studios who have their dancers run their routines before they go on could seriously care less who is watching them and are not going to waste their time trying to "psych out" the competition. I don't believe that AT ALL. Even just marking the dance gets the dancers thinking about that next dance and getting into whatever kind of character is required for it. It's very helpful as opposed to just jumping from dance to dance which sometimes has to happen if their isn't enough time between dances.
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DDs teams have always run their routines at least once or twice at the comp. Her team is ave age 8, so I think it's helpful for the littles. it gets them thinking about their dances, even if it's not full out. Not quite sure about if our older teams do or not, as they're usually in a different session and I don't always pay attention to what others are doing. I've definitely seen other studios running numbers too, and everyone does it respectfully for the most part, out of the way of main traffic areas and I've never had the impression that they are trying to psyche out others. I've always seen it as warming up and getting into the right mindset/character for the routine.
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Our dancers run through on site and it is definitely NOT to psych out the competition. At a recent event groups took turns practicing in a large empty space. Everyone was respectful and gave compliments to each other. Dancers were focused on their own routines.
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If they don't have it by the time they arrive at the comp trying to rehearse in a small cramped area with folks trying to get past them does not help them with spacing or even memory on stage.
Well I believe people rehearse before they go on stage simply because they can. If there’re enough staff, space, time to do it I honestly don’t see why not. I doubt SO/teachers would risk to injure dancers right before they hit the stage. Things might be different in the US but here in Canada, most of the comps we’ve been to have a rehearsal hall. They named the area like that for a reason.
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We have never had a rehearsal hall to run numbers. Some completions are so packed in and cramped, nobody can run a number. Sometimes, the girls will mark a piece just to get it fresh in their heads. Very rarely will they full run a piece - and once was because a girl left the competition sick and they needed to re-space a few parts.
As long as nobody is doing it in doorways or down the only hallway, I don’t see what the big deal is. My dd likes to at least mark the dances because it keeps her nerves down, rather than just sitting and waiting and waiting for her time to go. Keeps her mind and body busy.
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I think you have to be pretty obnoxious and have quite the inflated ego to think that by rehearsing in a hallway you are somehow 'psyching out' other teams. And that's not a go-to assumption for me.
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The only time at our current studio we have ever run a number before going on stage was to reblock due to illness or injury. They may get a pep talk etc but they are expected to know their choreo by comp time.
Previous studio ran every dance before going on stage but they absolutely did it to try and psyche out other teams. They also did this ridiculous loud chant in the dressing room before going on stage. It was very much look at me. They also compete intermediate even though based upon the number of hours and number of dances they do they should be the upper level.