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dtdance348

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Anyone else see the announcement?

BREAKING NEWS!!! THE Dance Awards will now be in NEW YORK CITY and LAS VEGAS next summer!!!

The Dance Awards, Las Vegas -- June 27-July 3, 2014

The Dance Awards, NYC -- July 8-15, 2014

More info coming soon!!! Save the dates!!!

Kind of defeats what TDA set out to be, in my opinion. Even though it was probably incredibly expensive for people to be flying in to New York from around the country (and world) and staying in the heart of the city, that's what made it feel prestigious. Thoughts? 

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I agree.  .  . But I wasn't there this year and if things were insanely crowded, then I might understand it.  As a dancemom, I would really appreciate it if they decided to do this in order to offer a less crowded event.

I honestly think that the titles THE Dance Awards and THE BEST Dancer are really silly.  As if there can be ONLY ONE BEST Dancer and as if this group identifies that person.  It's just arrogant.  Judging from the caliber of talent that the event draws, it just doesn't make sense.
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I didn't find it over-crowded at all this past year. And by that announcement, it kind of loses a little bit of the magic. I wonder if it was more of a marketing decision to gain more participants on that side of the country. It was a very, very expensive trip and we are doing a closer Nationals next year.

I'm wondering how this will change things (e.g. Studio of the Year, Best Dancer, etc.). Will they have two? Will they have one based on highest score between both cities? The winning studio received $25,000 in the past. Will that change? I have lots of questions now. I'm also wondering if they will combine with 24 Seven since that is also a "Break the Floor" company and their first Nationals was in Vegas this year.
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As someone living in CO, I'm thrilled to see a big name nationals come closer to us.  NYC is SO expensive.  That said, I agree that it feels like it will lose some prestige by splitting things.  I like the sense that the top schools and dancers are competing against each other, and when there are two, you have that sense of, "Who would've won if they'd gone head to head?"  By the same token, you could maybe say the thing about "Who would've won?" if you take the winners from NYCDA vs. The Dance Awards.  I guess that's just the world of competitive dance - it's unstructured, and there will never be a definitive "best."  As long as the classes offered remain of high quality and the judging remains tough, you're not actually losing anything.
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 I guess that's just the world of competitive dance - it's unstructured, and there will never be a definitive "best."  As long as the classes offered remain of high quality and the judging remains tough, you're not actually losing anything.


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I guess I would add, that what you will find is that different comps want different things. So you will find routines that don't make the overalls nationally in one comp and then are in the top 3 in another. It can be very weird.
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I'm also wondering if they will combine with 24 Seven since that is also a "Break the Floor" company and their first Nationals was in Vegas this year.


Good question. According to their website, they are combining. This year 24 seven had it's own nationals but the scholarships to intensives were the same as JUMP and Nuvo. 
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I am happy to see The Dance Awards expand.  We went there 2 years ago and it was great but so expensive.  Now maybe we can go again in Vegas!
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I am somewhat disappointed in this announcement. Quite frankly I've always thought comps that had multiple nationals were just in it for the money, and that nationals didn't mean a whole lot.

As an east coaster I'd be more than happy if they wanted to rotate between the east coast and west coast each year. Even with the cost of the flight, Vegas will likely be significantly cheaper for us anyway. Given that, I think you might see quite a few east coast studios go to Vegas instead of NYC next year.
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I'm excited nyc is super expensive and we can drive to las Vegas. Our studio already does a summer competition In Vegas every year. It will be interesting to see how that work out the details of awards. Anyone heard what venue they are using?
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I wonder if NYC will end up being East Coast dancers and Vegas will be West Coast dancers. I have always liked the fact that the dance awards attracted dancers from all over the country. New York is so much more expensive than Vegas though, so I can see how this will make the dance awards so much more affordable to so many more people.

It will be interesting to see what happens with this. I have no doubt that both nationals will be filled with talent!
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I am somewhat disappointed in this announcement. Quite frankly I've always thought comps that had multiple nationals were just in it for the money, and that nationals didn't mean a whole lot.

As an east coaster I'd be more than happy if they wanted to rotate between the east coast and west coast each year. Even with the cost of the flight, Vegas will likely be significantly cheaper for us anyway. Given that, I think you might see quite a few east coast studios go to Vegas instead of NYC next year.


We have a comp in Canada that used to do that with their nationals - not sure if they still do.  Years ago they were the only Canadian comp holding nationals and did one year in Ontario and one year in British Columbia.
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I heard that they are looking to either move to Cali - or open a west coast office in addition to NYC.

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I hate the idea. What makes the dance awards so special is that there is only one. Which means one top overall studio, one national winner. It makes it great because there are amazing dancers and studios that attend. The best compete against the best. I know NYC is expensive but the dance awards attracts talent from all over. Which makes it more fun.
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I'm also wondering if they will combine with 24 Seven since that is also a "Break the Floor" company and their first Nationals was in Vegas this year.


Good question. According to their website, they are combining. This year 24 seven had it's own nationals but the scholarships to intensives were the same as JUMP and Nuvo. 


24 Seven just announced on FB that they are joining The Dance Awards!
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I'm also wondering if they will combine with 24 Seven since that is also a "Break the Floor" company and their first Nationals was in Vegas this year.
<br><br>Good question. According to their website, they are combining. This year 24 seven had it's own nationals but the scholarships to intensives were the same as JUMP and Nuvo. 
<br><br>24 Seven just announced on FB that they are joining The Dance Awards!


Hahahaha!!!! I knew it!! Glad about that though.
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I agree with beachgirl that it did not seem too crowded at all.  And I agree that the idea of having just one was what made it special.  Seeing so much talent from around the world (because when they asked the kids in the teen room who were not from this country to stand it was almost half the group) in one place was really amazing.  I also found out that a surprising number of studios when for NYCDA and stayed for The Dance Awards.  I couldn't imagine spending 3 weeks in NYC, 9 nights was expensive enough.  But I agree with the general consensus that having one is what makes it special and alternating coasts would be a better option than having two cities. 
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Many people do the NYCDA/Dance Awards Duo. They are conveniently timed.  We can't do both. We don't have the energy, time, or money.  I find that these events are really energy sapping and the classes are just crowded and stressful.
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Love the comments.... Personally, I do not think that The Dance Awards should have 2 national finals.  I actually thought that Gil had a plan, that one day the show would be picked up by a tv station and it would eventually enter the world of the Emmys or Academys (ok, wishful thinking).  But the actual show is very classy and I could truly see something like this happening.  But now with 2 national locations yearly, I think that ship has sailed.  

I like the idea of rotating the venue each year, but keeping it as one.  Personally, I think that it is a cash grab.  By adding in the 24 Seven dancers, he needs the two locations, to make sure that everyone comes to his nationals.  I also believe that he might be worried about the Canadian contingency that comes to NYC every year.  The Dance Awards have been around for 3 years and the top studio for 2 of those years has been a Canadian studio.  Who knows how many other Canadian studios may choose to come to The Dance Awards.  

And as for the comment of the talent at the Dance Awards, not sure when you went, but the talent in all of the age groups for all 3 years has been most of the best dancers from across the continent and just south.  All of the big name dancers in North America and Canada (at least ) have attended them and many of them have won or been in the top 3 or top 10.  Many of the dancers are the same ones that attend NYCDA and they place in both National Finals.  They are truly the best.  The point of what gives TDA the right to select the best dancers is something that I might tend to agree with.  The problem is that dance is not regulated in any way and as far I believe, they do not wish to become regulated (or they will actually start to lose money) and thus you might be right, who is to say that the judges at TDA can select the best dancers.  But for the most part I think that many of the winners are the dancers who the average person would select (maybe because of their name being out there).

Anyways, like I said I hope that TDA realizes that this new format is not the best as it takes away from the prestige of their event an that they decide to rotate it across the country each year.  I do believe that multiple nationals are about money (nothing else). :(

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I actually thought that Gil had a plan, that one day the show would be picked up by a tv station and it would eventually enter the world of the Emmys or Academys.


So funny you said this because that was exactly where my mind went! Like the gala would actually be an annual awards-type show on TV. Guess we were both wrong! Maybe you and I should start a competition to aim for that! Lol!
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I dont get the Canadian concern. Why would Gil be concerned?

The point is that TDA cannot choose "the best dancer" imo. No.dance comp.can. Dance is too diverse and subjective, even when it is probably clear who the top 10% are. FYI there are dancers in the top 3 who have competed the same routines in other competitions and not placed. This is why I think that THE NAME of the award is odd.
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Too funny!  I explained the gala to people as being like the Emmy's as well.  And the thought of it becoming televised definitely crossed my mind!  LOL

And I would say that the Canadian concern would be because there are so many Canadian dancers at The Dance Awards.  If the locations alternate between NYC and Las Vegas each year then the Canadian studios may opt out on the Las Vegas years, or lose interest all together if they can't consistently attend.  So Gil could potentially lose the participation of a good number of dancers.  And AMAZINGLY talented dancers at that.
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I guess I never thought of the award name 'Best Dancer' meaning  ...in the world.  Just best dancer that comes to their competition, since that's obviously all they can do.  I'm sure other competitions have similarly named awards (Junior Miss Dance, etc.).  Many of those don't specify the name of the competition in their title.

Maybe it should be 'Best Dancer that Danced at a Jump or NUVO Regionals and had enough money to come to NYC for a week'. 
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Ceme..pretty funny
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As a Canadian that has gone to The Dance Awards a couple of times, I don't think holding it in Vegas would not be a deterrent. I believe the cost would be the same or even less. I would prefer just one nationals, regardless of where they held it.
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