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3leftfeet

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“Ms. Acken – please write about Christi Lukasiak pimping her daughter Chloe out to make a quick buck . . .

I’m not the bad guy – I’ve been teaching dance for 32 years. . .

If Chloe didn’t continually miss class and come late and leave early she would be an amazing dancer, or should I say the dancer I could create.

Her mother’s constant negative remarks about me personally, and my craft have taken a toll on the child. Chat with any of the ALDC Faculty members and they will tell you just how much Chloe has changed since the show started! 

Don’t miss the new show Abby’s Ultimate Dance Competition! I’m sure Christie will have her nose out of joint over this one!

Deepest Regards,
Abby Lee Miller




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Abby Lee Miller Fights Back: Christi Lukasiak exploits daughter Chloe



Really Abby??? What's next? 

Nothing like airing your dirty laundry in public . . .
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Those meet and greets I bet help pay for her dance now. Plus I at least *hope* Christies smart enough to put aside a big chunk for college savings.
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Those meet and greets I bet help pay for her dance now. Plus I at least *hope* Christies smart enough to put aside a big chunk for college savings.



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All I have to say is "wow...how absolutely audacious and typical of one of America's most despised humans." I could address items line by line based on my understanding of what has happened on screen and behind the scenes. But three things stand out. 1. Abby is the most hypocritical person on the face of this earth. She is the biggest "pimp" having set herself up with this show and the upcoming one and using one of the moms to save her studio that was going bankrupt. 2. She will never take responsibility for the changes she is making in Chloe and others due to her inhumane, abusive nature on the show at a critical time when these girls psyches are being formed (and Chloe's instructors--aka her employees--are not an unbiased sampling of people, and 3. She continues to protect Maddie by not mentioning the same behavior when anyone that follows Melissa's twitter find her methods outrageously "pimping" (vote for me for Top Mom and I will set up a Skype session with Maddie or buy you an iPad) and she uses Melissa's tactics (publicly tearing down a child and making claims that she leaves class, doesn't show p at class, could have been a great dancer) to throw Christi, BUT ESPECIALLY INNOCENT CHLOE, under the bus. This letter did not argue Abby's case--she's not "the bad guy"--well and she looks worse in my eyes, at least. What a vile, undignified, ignorant creature she is.
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Well, some of us were wondering how much of Abby's behavior was staged for the show, to generate controversy, and how much was real. Obviously no cameras are on her now for the show. This is what she really thinks of Chloe. And it is really horrifying.

And lets be honest -- how can any of those children not change due to exposure from TV -- particularly TV in that abusive setting. It's the adults' responsibility to try to negate the worst of the experience.   Abby and her teachers amplify the negativity, not reduce it.  So why wouldn't Christie and Chloe come late and leave early (just as the Hylands reportedly stay away when filming is not going on) to avoid more damage.

I am assuming their contracts are up, if Kelly is thinking about leaving the show. I suppose they all may have a kind of Stockholm syndrome after years of this abusive environment.  But I can't imagine why either Chloe or Paige should return. They would get better teaching and better support elsewhere. Brooke clearly is over dance.  Melissa has drunk the Kool-aid.  She will let Maddie go through Abby's grinder till she burns out. Abby will have another baby prodigy by that time, another fawning mother, and Maddie will be just another burned about dancer she castigates as she does Brooke and Chloe.  And her mother just another bitter mother, who has seen her daughter used for Abby's reputation and then cast aside.

I can't think well of any parent who would sign her daughter up for another year of Dance Moms.

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That doesn't surprise me at all, Christi does seem to idolise her daughter. I remember an epidote when I think Jill said Chloe is always second, and the voice used by Christi, when she responded that Chloe,is not second was like she was ready to kill the next person to say such a thing.

She does "talk" more than anyone else to the public and the fans, I can see it really going to her head.m Chloe seems like a quiet well behaved, nice kid who will do what her mother asks, or what her dance teacher asks. She must feel very torn between wanting to please Mum and wanting to please Abby.
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@Dani- I would have to disagree, I think that Christi is way more out there than Melissa. I don't know that it's the talking to fans or the meet and greets or what, but Christi comes off more like a manager type mom to me... Make Chloe a star at any cost, seems to be her goal. Don't get me wrong all the girls have done meet and greets, but it seems like Christi pushes them more or something...

If the letter (e-mail) is correct then I can see why Maddie would be the "favorite". Why would you spend extra time with a kid that comes in late to class or leaves early without legit stuff (school, sickness, etc.) or reward them with extra dances? I've coached kids that have all the talent in the world but you have to constantly be on them, vs a good kid who is willing to work hard, you WANT to give more time to the kid that wants it. Maybe it's not the case and it's just to bring more attention to her. But if it is the truth I can see why some of the things happen the way that they do.
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Abby's grammar sucks.
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Ugh. The more I hear the gladder I am that I don't watch this trainwreck. 
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It really makes me sick to my stomach that a teacher would talk openly about her student like this.
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we will never know the high cost of this show on these children...the cost will be there for their entire life
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Good thing that the show has ended. It could have gotten a lot worse.  So glad that the viewing public voted, "No!"  to this.  That's really what it takes.
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Just a few months ago I remember Melissa tweeting about meet and greets and a whole "team Ziegler" t-shirts line...
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It really makes me sick to my stomach that a teacher would talk openly about her student like this.


Agreed and I would be done giving that studio one more dime if I was Christi.  Abby lost me a few weeks ago with calling Chloe a snake (or was it a sneak) without any explanation.  If that is reality TV scripted, then Chloe deserves an Emmy for her reaction.  I would have been done then.    

Well, I guess it depends on what you are paying for.  Dance instruction by nurturing role models?  Or fame? 
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Just saw this and thought I'd share.  It's a posting for a "meet and greet," but this one is for Maddie, Mackenzie and Kendall.  Just to make it clear-- the price for theirs is the same price it is to go to the meet and greet for Chloe, paige, Nia and Brooke.  My point is that Abby doesn't seem to have a problem with Melissa doing what she calls Christi "prostituting her daughter" out.  Quite the hypocritic that Abby!<br /><br /><a href="http://dancemoms.eventbrite.com/">http://dancemoms.eventbrite.com/</a>


Here's one for Abby herself... $75 per student and $20 just to meet ALM...hypocrite much? Guess few ask for her...

http://www.wtok.com/home/headlines/Dance-Moms-Star-to-Visit-Meridian-171562891.html?mobile=yes

The star of the TV show Dance Moms is coming to Meridian.

Abby Lee Miller will conduct workshops Friday at Pat Gray Academy of Dance. Miller will also take part in a Meet and Greet Saturday morning.

Dance Moms is in its second season. It follows Miller and her students and their parents through conflicts as they rehearse and prepare for dance competitions.

The Friday workshop costs $75 per student. Two workshops are offered, at 4 p.m. and 6 p.m.

The cost to attend the Meet and Greet Saturday from 10 a.m. to 11 a.m. is $20.

Call Pat Gray Academy for more information, 601-485-4776.
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That workshop is more expensive than when Chloe & Christie came to our old studio a week ago.  The "teacher" was a 19 yr old from Abby's studio - she had a broken foot.  The cost was $50 for the master class & meet/greet.  Don't know how much the pictures that were autographed cost.  Some company parents got to "meet" with Christie while the girls were dancing.  Heard that the girls had lots of fun.  

Does anyone know how much money the moms/girls are making from the show?  Maybe these meet n' greets are a way to help pay for college later (at least that's the hope I have). 
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Just a few months ago I remember Melissa tweeting about meet and greets and a whole "team Ziegler" t-shirts line...


Melissa's constantly hawking the team Ziegler stuff. Like at least once a day either one her fb, Maddies fb, twitter etc.
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That workshop is more expensive than when Chloe & Christie came to our old studio a week ago.  The "teacher" was a 19 yr old from Abby's studio - she had a broken foot.  The cost was $50 for the master class & meet/greet. ;


You probably got a better deal..Pay Abby $75, and what is she going to "teach?" She certainly cannot demonstrate moves. ;-)
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It really makes me sick to my stomach that a teacher would talk openly about her student like this.


Agreed and I would be done giving that studio one more dime if I was Christi.  Abby lost me a few weeks ago with calling Chloe a snake (or was it a sneak) without any explanation.  If that is reality TV scripted, then Chloe deserves an Emmy for her reaction.  I would have been done then.    

Well, I guess it depends on what you are paying for.  Dance instruction by nurturing role models?  Or fame? 


I think she called her a "snake" and a "sneak" if I remember correctly.  I'm sure those were real tears from Chloe..  That was awful to watch.  I know Abby is trying to hurt Christi with her remarks (which of course, she does), but does she not have ANY feeling whatsoever for these children?  They are separate individuals, and just because you hate their mothers if no reason to take it out on them.  Yes, I would have been out of there right then, contract or no contract, if someone did that to my kid.  Of course, I would have been out a long time ago..  She seems to constantly beat Chloe down.  I just don't understand it at all!!



When I saw that, all I could hope was that it was clever editing. That Abby said that in a room without Chloe present or able to hear, (i.e., for the cameras) and that they spliced Chloe crying over some other issue with Abby's comment, to make it seem as if the two were related.

If she really said that in front of Chloe, I can't understand why the production isn't flat out shut down. These are little girls, and this woman is not "instructing them in dance" when she says those hateful things. She is verbally assaulting them, bullying them, and abusing them.  Surely it has been well enough established that verbal abuse is as bad or worse than physical.

So I agree with you. I don't understand why Abby is allowed to continue, why the mothers put up with it, why the production company isn't addressing the issue, and why Lifetime, or the advertisers, aren't putting a stop to it themselves, or facing hordes of concerned parents writing in and boycotting the advertisers until the show is corrected  or removed from the air. It makes no sense to me.

However, sooner or later, something is going to happen to one of these reality kids, that will result in a halt to this...how can we call it anything but abuse?



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It was at our former studio - where we are now persona non grata, so dd was not there.  She didn't seem to mind though.

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That workshop is more expensive than when Chloe & Christie came to our old studio a week ago.  The "teacher" was a 19 yr old from Abby's studio - she had a broken foot.  The cost was $50 for the master class & meet/greet. ;
You probably got a better deal..Pay Abby $75, and what is she going to "teach?" She certainly cannot demonstrate moves. ;-)
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I have to say my daughter and i watched dance moms too. we went to a convention last year in pittsburgh, and aldc was there. i have to say the girls, parents, and abbey were all very polite. My daughter and i still watch the show, but we don't see it the same way after meeting them. WE also heard that abbey and kathy are good friends. its all for entertainment purposes.
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I would not be interested in meeting any of them, really.  I have nothing against them at all, but I see them as any other dancers...it is just that a camera follows them around, producers and writers coach them and they are making a profit from what can be the worst parts of the world of dance.  They are not actors, they are not doing charitable works, they are not saving the world form disease or famine...they are just behaving badly and making a buck so others may watch them use the talents of their daughters for present financial gain.  They are not promoting dance or talent or gaining respect for their kids at all...they re cashing in on the whole interest and phenomenon....and playing the game.  They know how to act nice and to be celebrities.  I am sure they are all pleasant and kind if you meet them...why not?
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I would not be interested in meeting any of them, really.  I have nothing against them at all, but I see them as any other dancers...it is just that a camera follows them around, producers and writers coach them and they are making a profit from what can be the worst parts of the world of dance.  They are not actors, they are not doing charitable works, they are not saving the world form disease or famine...they are just behaving badly and making a buck so others may watch them use the talents of their daughters for present financial gain.  They are not promoting dance or talent or gaining respect for their kids at all...they re cashing in on the whole interest and phenomenon....and playing the game.  They know how to act nice and to be celebrities.  I am sure they are all pleasant and kind if you meet them...why not?


What she said.
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Kelly came to a studio near us with Paige and Brooke. She was supposed to come with a coreographer she works with at ALDC, but when Abby found out she told the woman she wouldn't have a job at ALDC if she did it...I think she was more unhappy that she hadn't set it up herself and, therefor, wasn't reaping any financial benefits, then the fact that they were "prostituting" themselves. What a hypocrite!!

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^ you hit the nail on the head. Abby is jealous of these girls because people watch the show for them, not for Abby
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